- Reviewed/Returned email from patient 15 minutes
- Phone call to Radiologist X who read film and reviewed with me 30 minutes
- Reviewed chart sent by PMDs office 60 minutes
- Literature review regarding disease X 20 minutes
- Phone conference with PMD re: differential diagnosis and plan 20 minutes
- Confirmed appointment with patient and discussed concerns 15 minutes
- Appointment with patient 80 minutes
- Total Hours 4 hours
- At 325$ per hour and 10% Professional Discount 1170 USD
What does insurance pay? 256 USD dollars, I hope you can see why the system is failing.........
Why in the world would any VC want to fund such a labor intensive service......Insurance sure as hell tries not to. Why do I say this? Because every single other professional in the US bills and gets paid this way but not the doctors.......in fact, for every person who pays for these services we could serve probably another 1 or 2 patients pro-bono.
So what happens when a patient wants a DTC test with a doctor interpretation?
Good question....I am not certain how one would bill for interpretation of a 1 million SNP scan. I guess you would have to take a family history and look for a diagnosis....Heck, if the patient walked in the door, you couldn't even bill for a 99245, you would have to bill for an in office evaluation which pays even less than the 256$.....
But here is the problem......most patients don't want to be hackers.....most patients want to speak with a doctor......preferably a doctor who knows what the test they just took means......
So I ask you.....Is it really greedy to ask for 1000 USD for an intake? Especially when billing insurance means you can't spend the time you would like on the case, or even worse, if you do spend that time today......will you be in business tomorrow???? A classic example.....DNA Direct charges 3456 for BRCA full sequencing, yet Myriad only charges 3120 dollars. Because they don't mark up their test, the 2 mandatory genetic ocunseling sessions at DNA Direct cost 356 USD.....if insurance paid for that it would be 120 USD.....No business can afford to use insurance to reimburse for Genetic Services........period! Interestingly Myriad cuts the cost for NIH research to 2500 USD..... So one really wonders what the test costs.....I know for sure what the manpower cost for evaluation is!
The Sherpa Says: To really get personalized healthcare we need to radically change how healthcare is funded. The paper pushing...the coding....the lack of pay......they all need to go away......or heck, maybe someone could just automate all of that crap and let us get back to caring for people, NOT ICD9's.......
5 comments:
It's true that insurance can be confusing and frustrating. I do think that it's essential, however. There are a lot of places to look for good insurance, so it's important to shop around.
"precisely what alot of medicinal quackery was prior to evidence based medicine"
Actually, a lot of medicinal quackery was because people trust the authority of experts. Pick a religion you don't like and you can say the same thing about priests, too.
Also, your use of the word "hacker" is inaccurate. What you mean is "a hack."
I would start with all that feel-good newage all-natural "healer" crap before you start picking on people reading science out of respected medical journals.
@ K.....totally confused....I am talking about insurance paying doctors.....you could havethe best insurance as a patient and they could charge you a ton for it, but not pay the doctors who are actualy providing you care!
@Andrew
"Actually, a lot of medicinal quackery was because people trust the authority of experts"
Yes, now those "self taught experts" are on the internet...
Quote: "Yes, now those "self taught experts" are on the internet..."
Who are the self taught experts? I'm just curious to know. Are you refering to the people who start a business, build a website, and try and sell products based on your genomic sequence? Example, selling nutrient stuff based on what your SNPs show.
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