If you have been following me at this blog for any amount of time, you know that I have been a careful watcher of these GWAS studies, and the testing companies who sprung up after them.
I have been skeptical of most of these studies unless they have had replication and fairly large Odds Ratios or Relative Risks........why? We are looking for clinical relevance and asking what can we do with this to better our patients lives........
Personalized medicine relies on several things but these 3 are absolutely needed: Prediction, Prevention and Privacy. It is rich in fields like Cancer Genetics, PGx, Preconception Genetics.
You see Personalized medicine is not just Prediction, which these DTC companies are touting, it is therapies and action......which, these tests unfortunately are lacking in.....
Unlike Pharmacogenomics....
To put it bluntly.....based on our current knowledge of what these SNPs are and what they do,
Consumer Genomic Testing is of:
Extremely Limited Clinical Value
We saw this with 9p21.3 one of the most significant findings in this arena.
Yesterday an article was released in PLOS which I just linked to which states that case pretty effectively.
I often say, that once a discovery is made of a gene or SNP or etc.....it will require at minimum 5 years to come to clinical utility.....So how could any company sell something prior to this under the auspices of medicine???
The conclusion from the PLOS paper:
Our analyses and examples show that strong association, although very valuable for establishing etiological hypotheses, does not guarantee effective discrimination between cases and controls. The scientific community should be cautious to avoid overstating the value of association findings in terms of personalized medicine before their time.
Association is NOT causation, nor is it actionable.......
Most of this small time SNP data comes through in guess what????
Family History!!!!! (five exclamation points for Daniel)
The Sherpa Says: Family History is FREE!!!! And Soon SNP testing will be too.
Saturday, February 7, 2009
Like I said........
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Monday, August 18, 2008
The New BRCA....this time its the Colon!!!
This is a fantastic review. I have been very careful trying to avoid hyping tests. I do this because we need validation and some evidence for use would be nice. The problem is that sometimes a test is so powerful that it should not be sat on.
Deaths: 49, 960
2. Clinical testing is not YET available
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Sunday, April 13, 2008
OK for Journals but Cut From the LA Times
I mention this because I just finished my manuscript for The Journal entitled Personalized Medicine. This is an excellent journal with a tremendous potential. I recently published here and intend to send a significant amount of my work its way. But what is most important about these journals, Pharmacogenomics and Personalized Medicine, is that they are giving an opportunity for younger scientists, physicians and stake holders a voice.
I have recently begun to realize the potential of pairing patient centered care with genomic medicine. By putting these two ideas together....we may have a winner. I think that these two parallel ideals may actually be synergistic. Put plainly, moving the care in a patient centered way that DOES NOT REMOVE the healthcare practitioner, but places them as the coach, enables patients to make better choices by understanding their genomic risk. First by taking a family history and secondly by using appropriate genetic testing. Just like Muin said.
Even if that regulatory hurdle had been cleared, Ms. DuRoss said she doubted that the company would have invited customers to provide saliva samples on the spot. “It’s a little awkward to ask people to spit in public,” Ms. DuRoss said. “It’s a very private thing.”
Woah!!! We (Navigenics) are classy and tactful, You (23andME) are classless. That's what it sounds like to me ;)
The Sherpa Says:
When my next article is published I will let you know. I hope it serves as a good compass. Speaking of compass, take a looksie at Daniel's post at Genetic Future....he seems to think these big corporate genomic companies will be fighting each other for quite some time....He may be right. Maybe they could read my article? Then they would realize what they needed to do. Differentiating themselves is definitely a start.
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Wednesday, April 9, 2008
A New Hope
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Monday, April 7, 2008
T minus 21 hours
Till Navigenics Launch.......
Stay Tuned!
-Steve
p.s. Congrats to Amy over at....oh wait...she hasn't started a blog yet ;) But in all seriousness, congratulations. Thanks to Jonathan at Tree of Life for leaking this......
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Tuesday, March 25, 2008
500 Hospitals want to know....
Lots of stuff happening online today. I just left a conference call where I was the invited guest panelist along with Robert Resta CGC. The Advisory Board Company and The Innovations Center presented an Issue Brief entitled-The Genetic Testing Frontier: Impact on Clinical Care, Market Opportunities. Hundreds of hospitals were online wondering how they too can get a piece of the action.....
The three fundamental ethical principles for using any human subjects for research are:
(1) respect for persons: protecting the autonomy of all people and treating them with courtesy and respect and allowing for informed consent;
(2) beneficence: maximizing benefits for the research project while minimizing risks to the research subjects; and
(3) justice: ensuring reasonable, non-exploitative, and well-considered procedures are administered fairly (the fair distribution of costs and benefits.)
These principles remain the basis for the HHS human subject protection regulations.
All told, concluded a study in this month's issue of the American Journal of Human Genetics, "There is insufficient scientific evidence to conclude that genomic profiles are useful in measuring genetic risk for common diseases or in developing personalized diet and lifestyle recommendations for disease prevention."
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Saturday, March 15, 2008
A thought....
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Monday, March 10, 2008
60 is the trigger for Alzheimers
Finally, a weekday post! I know, I have gotten in this vicious cycle of posting on the weekends and keeping them up for the first few days of the week, just so those readers who don't check the rss or even switch on a CPU on the weekends don't miss a beat. Listen, I read Tim Ferriss' book too...but I now have to step it up.....
Today I want to bring an interesting topic to light. Why are people scared of genetic testing? Is it the discrimination (which doesn't exist) or is it something more deeply rooted like "Genetic Determinism"? In counseling for things like breast cancer risk, some often say..."You may have outlived your risk for early onset breast cancer" This is a sticking point for me.....Who ever outlives genetic risk? Completely, I mean. There are so many variables out there that can give you cancer...who is to say that just because you are 65 your BRCA mutation won't give you that cancer? I couldn't be hard pressed to say that so vociferously. I say this because even with the strongest genetic influences there is always an exception. This is exactly the case with Alzheimers and ApoE4.
Well now a study recently released called the Arizona ApoE4 Cohort Longitudinal Study of Cognitively Normal Individuals (Say that 3 times fast) indicates that 60 may be the age of kickoff for cognitive decline in ApoE4 carriers.
According to the article in Internal Medicine News......
There is a particular pattern of decline in ApoE4 homozygotes (2 copies) that tend to precede any diagnosis of mild cognitive impairment (a stage prior to full blown alzheimers or other dementia). Or prior to anything that can be seen on radiologic brain imaging....
So what does this mean for the clinician? It is huge....Instead of outliving your risk...we now may identify those with ApoE4 who will likely get Alzheimers......CAUTION, these results are currently being replicated and I wouldn't want to promise anyone that we have a perfect ApoE4 phenotype detector quite yet. But it is important to have this....Why? Because up to 10-40% of homozygotes will NEVER develop Alzheimers. So when can we say you have "Outlived your risk"? The answer is never...but we can say "You will be less likely to have ApoE4 related Alzheimers than someone who is your same age with this cognitive deficit." That is what should be said.
Now the real quandary..."How can we stop it from getting worse doc?" That is for another post.
The Sherpa Says:
Too many in the genetics field are quick to give medical advice. I warn that perhaps we should check our training and liability insurance before we start doing this. I recommend that all of us in this field work together to provide the best care possible. I never say never and never say always....in genetics as in life, there are NEVER any definitive answers...except "sometimes" and "it depends" That being said..........We should always be performing routine screening exams on carriers of any genetic changes. Confused yet? Don't be. Just follow my lead.
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Thursday, January 10, 2008
Navigenics? Who was that?
So after the New England Journal of Medicine has given Personal Genome Sequencing the thumbs down, I ask you...."What will happen to these personal genome companies?"
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Saturday, December 22, 2007
deCODEme results, Thanks Med-Source!
The Sherpa Says: Thanks to Megan for publishing this to the web. I am certainly interested in the medical aspects of these companies. Being pragmatic is different than being skeptical. I am both. Thanks to my other pragmatic skeptic Dr. Colby for pointing this video out for me.
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Wednesday, December 19, 2007
Genomics Into the New Year
What will the New Years bring genomics. Well, I have had my ear to the ground and have some ideas.
First the obvious
1. GINA will be passed by hitching a ride on another bill. How sad is that?
2. Navigenics will enter the fray and telemedicine will have a whole new face. What that face will look like is yet to be completely determined.
3. One of these companies will get sued
Next the less obvious
1. Academia will start to market personalized medicine
2. Helix Health of Connecticut will not be the only face to face private (non-Academic center) personalized medicine service...and they will be welcome friends. There are so many out there who need this.
3. Oprah will have her Genome sequenced ( I swear it will happen)...Obama too
Finally the inconceivable
1. Jim Watson will pass from this earth
2. A little unnamed startup will win the X-Prize
3. Mark Cuban will buy the rights to all of 23 and Me's genome database
The Sherpa Says:
To know the future we must look at the past. And if we fail to learn the mistakes from our past, we can always blame our genes. Or at least have the journalists tell us we can.
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Friday, December 14, 2007
Education Initiatives
I have been sick with a nasty virus this week. Vomiting has been the order of the day....yuck :(
Because of this, I will keep this post extremely short but useful. The SACGHS meeting was held last month and I think it was huge. There are a lot of good webcasts that are a must watch.
The rate limiting step of personalized medicine is physician uptake, and the rate limiting step in uptake is education. The SACGHS meeting on the 20th of November was huge reviewing efforts and ideas for education
Overview of Session
Barbara Burns McGrath, R.N., Ph.D. Research Associate Professor at the University of Washington School of Nursing. She reviews nicely the outline for the day and gives us a guideline.
Please check out the lecture given by the National Coalition for Health Professional Education in Genetics Executive Director. He describes a database similar to the one we are working on.
In addition, we need to utilize physician extenders. The advantage of having nurses in genetics is the fact that they have had some education in medication dosages and medical conditions. The same applies for physician assistants in genetics. But they will never replace the counseling abilities of professionals who have trained for 2 years in the field of genetic counseling.
Elizabeth Pestka, M.S. Assistant Professor of Nursing at the Mayo Clinic College of Medicine describes the 80 or so nursing organizations. It turns out 40 of those, 50% agreed to help include genetics into the nursing competencies. In 2006 there was a meeting to implement these competencies into practice.....This is where I sat back in awe. It is 2006 and they are just getting around to integrating these competencies? We are screwed for the next 4-5 years! But it turns out according to Nurse Pestka that these proceedings often take up to 17 years to become integrated!!!
I have worked with a nurse geneticist at Yale and I have to tell you how wonderful it is to share call with a nurse practitioner who is trained in genetics as well. I think we can really leverage our efforts with these talented individuals....I hope it doesn't take 17 years!
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Now if we can only train genetics counselors in medicine!!!
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