
A long time ago I had a post entitled "Beware Doctors Bearing Genetic Tests" back in April of 2007. It was an interesting post where I point out that this wonderful GI doctor who was IVY league trained completely hashed genetic testing for HNPCC.
I went on to explain the shortcomings with Internists in interpreting APC testing for familial adenomatoid polyposis coli. 1 in 3 misinterpret tests.....Wait till you see the DTC interpretation!
Everyone who gets all in a huff when I say that these DTC genetic tests should be regulated. But I am here to say there is a good reason for it, and it has nothing to do with the people getting the tests.......There is now threat of public harm.....
But first let me explain my frustration. Saturday I was on Twitter and Daniel MacArthur and I had a conversation, which he lead off by saying:
"@helixhealthct Just shows how arbitrary most medical care is anyway; not like it'll change the outcomes much.Which was in response to a PHG report on an article published in Genetic In Medicine [Kolor K et al. (2009) Genet Med 11(8):595].
Among the 1880 physicians sampled, 42% were aware of the tests(DTC Genetic tests) and, over the past year, 15% had at least one patient bring the results of such a test to them for discussion. Interestingly, of this latter group, 75% (212 physicians) indicated that the results had changed some aspect of their patient’s care.
Holy Crap! Really? 75% changed the care?
So it had me begging several questions.
1. Did the physician read the Terms of Service for the DTC test? "Not to be used to make medical decisions"
2. Did the patient read the Terms of Service when they brought this test to the physician.
3. How is the physician supposed to know that this is not a clinically validated genetic test?
4. How is the busy clinician to differentiate this test from other clinically valid tests?
5. Why did the patient bring the test to the doctor? Was it due to DTC marketing efforts?
I was pissed at Daniel. How dare he say what we as physicians do changes no health outcomes!
In some instances he may be right. In others I wondered how complaints may actually be neglected based on this "genetic test"
Did these 212 doctors know something I don't about the utility of this DTC testing?
I doubt it.
I am seriously concerned that the 3/4ths of the 18% had actually changed care based on a non-clinical based test. That, to me is Scary AS HELL!!!!!
Think on this for a second.....How many of these doctors will ignore chest pain complaints based on a low genetic risk?
Now think on this. How many doctors will unnecessarily order stress tests for patients who have no complaints and are "High Risk"?????
Either way you slice it, 3/4 of these doctors are acting incorrectly, or at least not according to evidence base.
This survey proved one thing to me. Doctors have no F^CK!n& Clue what they are doing with genomics!
Why should these tests be regulated?
1. Patients aren't following the terms of service, likely due to deceptive advertising
2. Doctors can pose a threat based on inaccurately using these tests
3. Over use of resources could end up being a big problem because of these tests.
4. The potential for public harm has now gone from silly consumer, to trained medical professional inflicting damage.......
The Sherpa Says: Like I said, beware doctors bearing genetic tests........and patients too.
Monday, August 24, 2009
PHG Foundation and my point.
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Thursday, April 24, 2008
Timely Release and A Unanimous Vote
Second, the American College of Medical Geneticists has put out a statement regarding genetic tetsing and patient care. Hsien, points this out over at Eye on DNA. She does a great job of highlighting the issues. Which, once again brings me to the point that diagnosing pre-disease is just as much medicine as diagnosing full on disease.
The notable item...
minimum requirements for any genetic testing protocol.”
1. A knowledgeable health professional should be involved in the process of ordering and interpreting a genetic test.
2. The consumer should be fully informed regarding what the test can and cannot say about his or her health.
3. The scientific evidence on which a test is based should be clearly stated.
4. The clinical testing laboratory must be accredited by CLIA, the State and/or other applicable accrediting agencies.
5. Privacy concerns must be addressed.
The Sherpa Says: Well. You have got to ask yourself. If the professionals are stating these are MINIMUM requirements.....what is everyone else doing? And why aren't they all doing the minimum?
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Thursday, November 15, 2007
The 10k USD Gene Sherpa
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Sunday, November 11, 2007
Scienceroll reviews Personalized Medicine Companies
"If we could merge the real advantages of these companies:
- the fantastic team of Navigenics and their unique business model;
- the financial background of 23andMe; the focus on genealogy information and social networking;
- the personal aspect of Helix Health of Connecticut and their potential to serve and help physicians as well,
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Saturday, October 20, 2007
Take an Antibiotic, Lose your hearing
Before I jump into the headlines I want to make mention of a few things. First, you know that there is something to these warnings I give about DTC testing when "in the Oct. 19 issue of Science, Bolnick and 13 researchers from universities across the nation call upon the scientific community to better educate the public about the limitations of the tests, and urge consumers to approach the tests with caution."
But here's the kicker. This Article.....It has nothing to do with disease testing. The buyer beware editorial is entitled "The Science and Business of Genetic Ancestry Testing"
Did you know that close to half a million people have taken ancestry testing. With 23 and Me lauching soon, I am certain that number will double in a year.
The problems with these tests are the same that come about with disease testing. Including false positives and negatives as well as limited database information to compare your alleles to.
Sounds like the VUS problem all over again.
So why lead with the pharmacogenomic title and only mention it now? Because I am not certain this test is ready for prime time. Although, there are thousands of babies getting aminoglycosides for a condition called rule out sepsis. This occurs when your baby develops a fever during the first 2 months of life. What can happen when the baby gets gentamicin? Well, in children with this change it can cause deafness. The authors in this article "Ototoxicity caused by aminoglycosides" The authors argue the merits of pharmacogenomic testing.
The most common predisposing mutation is now known as m.1555A>G, a mitochondrial DNA mutation has been well studied in China. Researchers attribute at least 33-59% of aminoglycoside ototoxicity to this change, according to studies from China.
That being said mitochondrial DNA is not always inherited to a disease causing level. In addition the authors point out the other problems"Genetic testing needs to be turned around rapidly, and consideration should be given to using an alternative antibiotic until the result of genetic testing is known."
The Sherpa Says: Well, no surprise. If there are charlatans in the medical genetic testing world where we are regulated, then imagine how ripe the field of ancestral testing is (Especially, given the lack of regulation). Let the buyer beware.....and hold the gentamicin please. Oh, and I am sick of watching the Myriad ad during Regis and Kelly!
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Thursday, September 27, 2007
Genetic Disease? Isn't she too Old for that?
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Monday, September 24, 2007
Want Longevity? Quit smoking and eat less.....
Yes, quitting smoking and eating less can help you. But it turns out some people will have an easier time doing these things. Also of note we begin to prove Murphy's Hypothesis (There is no such thing as a mongenic disease) These recent genetic studies caught my eye last week.
The first of this is sentinel study (Warning, all sentinel studies require replication)
This study reveals that patients with changes in the Cytochrome P450 enzyme 2B6. It turns out that"individuals with the CYP2B6 6 allele of the gene benefited from bupropion treatment and maintained abstinence longer while doing poorly on placebo, with a 32.5% abstinent rate vs. 14.3%, respectively. In contrast, those in the CYP2B6 1 group did well on both bupropion and placebo, with similar abstinence rates at the end of treatment and after a six month follow-up"
True that we do need some replication on this one, but there does seem to be other literature indicating this trend and other polymorphisms in Dopamine Receptors as well.
In addition to this one an article came out in AJHG this week. I want everyone to give up these words "MonoGenic Disease" Why? There is no such thing as a monogenic disease, unless you only have ONE GENE in your body. An example of this dichotomy is seen in the MONOGENIC DISEASE Hemochromatosis (Which BTW is not monogenic)
Unfortunately most Hemochromatosis is caused by mutations in HFE, but despite this testing, there are still people with Iron Overload who do not have HFE mutations. This is why I am not an advocate of HFE screening or even DTC testing of HFE. Even crazier, different people with hemochromatosis present differently. Why? Because there is no such thing as a MONOGENIC disease!!! In the AJHG this week an article shows that common variants in 3 other genes affect the penetrance of hemochromatosis. These genes are BMP2, BMP4, and HJV.
Serum ferritin levels were all affected by these common SNPs.There was even some indication of synergy between genes. To translate-Hemochromatosis is a multigenic disease, which primarily has problems in the HFE gene. So now is that clear as mud? The point....Don't expect a DTC test for hemochromatosis to tell you 1)If you will have Iron Overload 2)How bad your disease will be.
Finally, before you fall asleep or your heads explode, I want to chat about longevity. Some people think longevity can be bought with hormones, others with vitamins and Nutraceuticals (actually there is better data here). One big group thinks that all we have to do is stop eating.
This starvation group has recently been vindicated by studies on a family of genes called Sirtuins. A recent review was written in the Annals of Medicine. But just a couple of days ago an article in Cell the guys from Harvard Path publish on the role these genes play. Warning. This is a science heavy paper and the clinician may not find it useful at all....Dr Hsien Lei actually posted on this article as well. I see this as a potential windfall for companies looking to create Sirtuin activating cereals..........
The Sherpa Says: Gene Genie is up at Neurophilosophy so check it out! I am tuning up to host the next! We have along road ahead of us.....I like the way we are headed. However, there are some big bumps and changes coming up. Let's all keep our eyes on the prize...Truly Personalized Medicine
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Monday, September 17, 2007
I want my Genome!! What about your cholesterol?
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Sunday, September 16, 2007
Readers' Corner
I just wanted to highlight a comment made by one of my readers. I think it illustrates the point of screw your safety, we're taking this Prime Time
From my comment section:
I don't disagree that there is and will be a "gap phase" but the assertion that "overselling genomics could ruin the promise of personalized medicine" is ludicrous! The technology is going wherever it can no matter what - the more "wild west" the approach, the more tracks get followed, then darwinism (and capitalism) takes over and the worst ideas die off anyway. Otherwise, why don't we still have people with red flags walking in front of our cars? Where is the grand thinking that took the US to the moon nearly 40 years ago? "Nanny-state" thinking and unnecessary caution is this country's worst enemy.
Nanny State?
I guess child labor laws are nanny state.
What about making sure children's toys don't have lead paint on them? Oh, but that would be nanny state too. Clearly interfering with the progress of corporate america...
The Sherpa Says: I hope this comment puts this square in your face. Let the buyer beware, because the seller isn't going to. I imagine they did a boatload of calculations and assurances of safety PRIOR to ever launching that rocket. You always should when human safety is on the line. But heck, why should we with genomics in medicine? That would just be a nanny state. The lack of regard for human safety and medical malpractice is disgusting........ To this esteemed reader. I agree to disagree.
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Saturday, September 1, 2007
Pilot study...Buy Stock in Kimball Genetics now!
- Negative articles get print (contrarians always get published)
- The doubters often have no genetic training (or combined with internal medicine) and are afraid of what they may have to do if Personalized Medicine succeeds (Which it will)
- Their idea of Personalized Medicine is the snazzy websites of certain whole genome analysis, DTC testing or nutrigenomic fly by the night companies. Which are BTW putting a horrible stain on the name of Personalized Medicine. Francis Collins recently said "over promising can often kill a movement" so stop it. Or at least don't over promise. Please, I beg you.
"this study has other limitations. First, our study population consisted entirely of patients initiating warfarin for deep vein thrombosis prophylaxis following total hip or knee arthroplasty. The ability to generalize our model for other indications is unknown and should be studied in a broad population. In particular, the appropriate starting doses and the ability to safely initiate warfarin without genetic information need to be examined in other patient groups—including nonsurgical populations"
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Thursday, August 30, 2007
Tip60 tips off breast cancer aggresiveness
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Sunday, July 29, 2007
What good is a map?
- Can you read the map? I used to be in the Navy. We learned how to read nautical maps. But my father, a retired colonel in the Army, would have no clue where to begin. Imagine someone who had no training......
- Where are you on that map? If you have no orientation, how could you hope to navigate. Where does the sun rise? Simple question. However, when asked almost 15% of Americans do not know the answer.
- What is on the land you will be paddling to? If you paddle hard to get there only to find out that there are man eating natives, how good was your choice? Did you really want to find that land?
A map of your personal genome is much the same. Jason Bobe over at the Personal Genome comments on some of these topics. Who should be able to read the map? Should everyone have a Tom-Tom or Garmin? Should there be age limits on querying ability. And what if we find out something we didn't want to know? These are serious questions.
The Sherpa Says:
There will soon be a personal genome option. Everyone will be able to have an economically priced copy. We need some guidance on its interpretation. Personally, computers can only do so much. With all apologies to my colleauge Tim Arimond, we cannot program our way out of needing human interpretation. A computer cannot tell when you are scared, confused, upset......yet. I think that personal genome sequencing holds tremendous promise.........But it is only a map.
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Thursday, July 26, 2007
Oscar and Predictive, Personalized Death
From the article:
Oscar takes no notice of the woman and leaps up onto the bed. He surveys Mrs. T. She is clearly in the terminal phase of illness, and her breathing is labored. Oscar's examination is interrupted by a nurse, who walks in to ask the daughter whether Mrs. T. is uncomfortable and needs more morphine. The daughter shakes her head, and the nurse retreats. Oscar returns to his work. He sniffs the air, gives Mrs. T. one final look, then jumps off the bed and quickly leaves the room. Not today.
Making his way back up the hallway, Oscar arrives at Room 313. The door is open, and he proceeds inside. Mrs. K. is resting peacefully in her bed, her breathing steady but shallow. She is surrounded by photographs of her grandchildren and one from her wedding day. Despite these keepsakes, she is alone. Oscar jumps onto her bed and again sniffs the air. He pauses to consider the situation, and then turns around twice before curling up beside Mrs. K.
One hour passes. Oscar waits. A nurse walks into the room to check on her patient. She pauses to note Oscar's presence. Concerned, she hurriedly leaves the room and returns to her desk. She grabs Mrs. K.'s chart off the medical-records rack and begins to make phone calls.
Within a half hour the family starts to arrive. Chairs are brought into the room, where the relatives begin their vigil. The priest is called to deliver last rites. And still, Oscar has not budged, instead purring and gently nuzzling Mrs. K. A young grandson asks his mother, "What is the cat doing here?" The mother, fighting back tears, tells him, "He is here to help Grandma get to heaven." Thirty minutes later, Mrs. K. takes her last earthly breath. With this, Oscar sits up, looks around, then departs the room so quietly that the grieving family barely notices.
On his way back to the charting area, Oscar passes a plaque mounted on the wall. On it is engraved a commendation from a local hospice agency: "For his compassionate hospice care, this plaque is awarded to Oscar the Cat." Oscar takes a quick drink of water and returns to his desk to curl up for a long rest. His day's work is done. There will be no more deaths today, not in Room 310 or in any other room for that matter. After all, no one dies on the third floor unless Oscar pays a visit and stays awhile.
Note: Since he was adopted by staff members as a kitten, Oscar the Cat has had an uncanny ability to predict when residents are about to die. Thus far, he has presided over the deaths of more than 25 residents on the third floor of Steere House Nursing and Rehabilitation Center in Providence, Rhode Island. His mere presence at the bedside is viewed by physicians and nursing home staff as an almost absolute indicator of impending death, allowing staff members to adequately notify families. Oscar has also provided companionship to those who would otherwise have died alone. For his work, he is highly regarded by the physicians and staff at Steere House and by the families of the residents whom he serves.
The Sherpa Says: Perhaps this cat is just "sucking the breath" out of the patients.............
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Tuesday, July 24, 2007
WikiPedia Meets Genetics
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Friday, July 20, 2007
Some times you don't need a genetic test.
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Wednesday, July 11, 2007
No More Skin Biopsies????
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Wednesday, July 4, 2007
Sherpa Posts Total 100!!!!
- Scienceroll by Bertalan Mesko soon to be MD
- Bad Science by Ben Goldacre MD
- Eye on DNA by Hsien Lei PhD
- Highlight Health by Walter Jessen PhD
- Revolution Health's CMO Jeff Gruen MD
- The DNA Network and its littany of great blogs!
- Mashable the blog for social networks
- Buddhist thought by James Ray
- The Entrepreneurial MD
- Great Pics from around the World at Cosmos
- The latest and greatest at Science Friday
- The Wall Street Journal's Health Blog
- Wired's Science Blog
- NPR's On The Media
I know that this only 14 blogs but each is worth its weight in gold. It is Thursday and July so forgive me but I have to deal with some new interns :)
The Sherpa Says: Thanks to all of you. I look forward to the announcement when I hit 500 posts! Let's keep our eyes open and realize that there are a whole lotta people out there trying to oversell genetic tests. Or even worse. Knowledge is just a set of unorganized facts. Wisdom is knowing where to find the answer. I will strive to give you that answer or at least have the wisdom to find it.
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Tuesday, July 3, 2007
Happy Independence Day US!!!!
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Monday, July 2, 2007
Britain Needs A Sherpa!
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Saturday, June 30, 2007
WBUR posts on coumadin and Personalized Medicine!

Despite the heavy Boston accent,
On WBUR Carol's worries regarding Coumadin and Personalized Medicine hit home to millions of patients everywhere. This is an excellent example of the press' coverage of my specialty. Dr Sam Goldhaber a physician at Mass General talks about the promise of pharmacogenomic testing in blood thinning and avoidance of its horrible side effects.
Lastly they interview the Pope of Personalized Medicine
Francis says "Is this the scenario we want personalized medicine to enter?"
"The public thinks that this is snake oil (i.e. Direct to consumer testing and nutrigenomics)"
The Sherpa Says: "Save Betty!!!" We must take the time to educate everyone about the promise and pitfalls of personalized medicine. In My Humble Opinion, the only thing to move physcians will be the slew of lawsuits that happen after we publicize our great outcomes at Helix Health of Connecticut.
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