
The NIH/CDC is hosting a conference next week. I conference I wish I could go to, but alas, I will be DOING family histories on my patients that week.
The conference will be held at the NIH in Bethesda. This is an NIH state of the science conference about Family History and its usefulness.
I for one, am very glad that the government is trying to address this super important issue. It is beyond due for an evaluation.
Why?
With the cost of a genome going to drop to 5000 USD by the late fall (trust me), we will soon see another level of DTC and Clinical lab set offering the genome as a predictive tool.
There are several reasons that Family History beats a Genome (For Now)
1. Phenotypic data of family history represents complex interplay of genes and environment
There is no way that a simple genome will be able to give us the story of how a human will develop. That is predicted by environment and genes, which are successfully covered by..... A family history.
2. 5000 USD is still more than what it costs to obtain a family history.
By the time the software tools are released, we will see that social networking and the internet will transform the costs of family history next to nothing. Which is still a long way to go for the genome scans.
3. We have no clue what most of the genome data means.
Indels or CNVs or SNPs, we have no freaking clue what most mean, we do know what a heart attack at 40 means.......
4. Even if we had everyone's genome scans, we would still need phenotypic data and pedigrees.
What's the one thing we do when we have an intellectually delayed child with an abnormal CMA/CGH? We test the parents. Looking for THEIR phenotypes to make sense of the genome mess.
Look, people always give me reasons why the genome is important and a family history is useless.
I've heard them.
-"We don't speak with that side of the family"
-"My father lived with his uncle, because his father died (secretly running the empire as Darth Vader)"
-"I was adopted by Bail Organa, only to find out I have a lost twin brother"
There is one thing that will always be certain over time, there will be some screwed up family dynamics making it difficult (BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE) to obtain an accurate family history.
That being said, it is still often useful to capture those who you can. And still less expensive.
I look forward to the briefings from this conference, and Muin, if you are listening, I would love to have the link to the webcasts.... Oh wait, they have that too! Sweet.
If you can't be there, you can get the information you seek!
Once again, we need a state of the science on genome prediction, not a consensus statement a real eval of the state of the science. When placed side by side with the state of the science for a family history, we will soon see why family history is the preferred screening tool and will likely to continue that way, perhaps in conjunction with a genome scan, but genomes will NEVER replace family history.
The Sherpa Says: The press better be at this conference and report on Family History. And to the founders of Geni.com, you missed on this one when Tindall presented to you. Or maybe you just are going to steal the idea.........
Wednesday, August 19, 2009
Family History, State of the Science
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Saturday, February 16, 2008
Gene Genie is Back at The Sherpa!
So without much ado let's get started!
First the basic science. It is on the shoulders of these giants which Sherpas like me stand when we implement the clinical action. We are all different, every single one of us unique. What makes us this way? Well Yann Klimentidis shares with us some of his thoughts on the SNPs and genes that may make each population special. How can we trak what population you are from? Well, one good way is through mitochondria and now we have a more visual way to look at the mitochondrial genes. Made by a "mitochondrialist" (I would love to see what that conference looked like) the MitoWheel is poised to help those who need just a little more visual model.....May the Force Be With You.
At least if you have blue eyes, then things are looking up. Blaine over at Genetic Genealogist covers that family tree. Now I bet Tom Cruise doesn't feel as special anymore.
Other things make us special. The stuff with which we arrogantly called junk, including introns is proving to make us pretty special. Larry at Sandwalk elegantly covers some of the hot topics in Intronic Junk. This makes him the Tony Soprano of genetic waste management! Nice post.
It's not all about the Homo Sapiens. Even birds get their say at GrrlScientist where the argument for earlier flight is posed. Not really a gene post per se, but it is a Rock vs DNA clock battle. Speaking of evolution, what makes a fish go blind and how do they get that sight back? Greg Laden's blog will show you how. Better blind than dead, but if I have to go, I would like to skip the Black Death. Especially after reading Archeozoology's coverage of the Yersina Pestis Genome. Well maybe I will eat myself to death...or a higher level of evolution. Nature Blogs cover the Big Mac controversy. Nature versus Nurture debate will never end!
So how do we take this to the road? How can we translate these unique findings?
First we have to educate the physicians and get them up to speed. But can we do it? I will be presenting at the Association of Program Directors in Internal Medicine precisely on this topic. The blog PredictER gives some insight as well. Some may say we should just bypass physicians, let's here about our Genetic Future. After that good laugh we can head to Berci Mesko at Scienceroll and find a "23 and Me Hacker" who has created a pretty useful tool to help.
We all know that these technologies will only continue to improve. Unfortunately most MDs don't have the time to keep up. Here's a hint for them....Visit the Gene Genie, which will be at Sciencebase next.
For those who need a quick set of new tests!
deCode first with the PrCA gene, cute fellas, real cute. Hsien and Ramunas both cover this one.
Soon we won't need all of these tests. Especially if the 1000 genomes projects get things scanned quickly. I am certain all sorts of novel technology will be created. This will shake things up.
Until that day we have Family History. I was with a patient and one of our geneticists today. When a patient asked him how many patients he had seen he said "I have been doing this counseling before they even had the test." In heart attack land, family history is still the king predictor of MI risk. But I doubt that the company selling the Kif6 test want you to know that. Well maybe someday I will show up on the WSJ health blog too.....
Thanks to all those who submitted. I hope you enjoyed this. Thanks to Ricardo at MyBiotechLife for the excellent logo!
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Monday, October 22, 2007
Pharmacogenomics Rising
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Monday, September 17, 2007
I want my Genome!! What about your cholesterol?
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Sunday, September 9, 2007
Gene Genie and George's Blog
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Monday, May 21, 2007
BRCA2 not just for adults!
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Sunday, May 20, 2007
Weekend of Firsts
Today at ScienceRoll Bertalan Mesko gives me my first Blogterview. This follows hosting my first Gene Genie Carnival
I am very excited to have joined the ranks of those who he has interviewed.
Personalized medicine is a passion for me. The true dream is to not have to call it personalized medicine or personalized genomics. The real name should be Medicine.
I put this cartoon here because it represents the "part-time" work I do for my blog, my training, and lastly my new medical practice. Let me tell you about what is so revolutionary at Helix Health of Connecticut (sorry, I am waiting to release the website).
- We follow you for life (Something clinical geneticists rarely do). This is necessary given the rapid changes in genomic discovery. Your risks change as we learn more.
- We are available for consultation anywhere you are (I can't share how). Just Call 1-914-954-6406. Soon we will have online booking :)
- We put Geneticists together with Internists, OB/Gyns, Genomic Counselors and Pediatricians (when needed) to make care plans one patient at a time. We go over them with the patient to make sure they understand the plan. More importantly, we frequently "check-in"
All of these things require web 2.0, and I am a huge supporter of technology in medicine.
The Gene Sherpa Says: This blog post says it all. Personalized Medicine is US.
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Saturday, May 19, 2007
Gene Genie for 19 May 2007
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Thursday, May 17, 2007
Great Blog, Great Man
On occasion I like to make note of some person, event or thing that contributes to the future of health care and ultimately personalized medicine. One of these people is Bertalan Meskó.
He is a medical student at the University of Debrecen, Hungary (4th year of the 6). He has set up an amazing blog at Scienceroll whose aim is to make medicine, genetics more readable even for those who are not too interested in these.
If he were just to do that it would be a great thing. However, the soon to be Dr M is planning to help deliver the tools of Web 2.0 directly to physicians as he has to myself. He describes this synergy as Medicine 2.0. I currently am pointing all of my medical students and residents directly to his blog. I highly recommend it.
He has been interviewed several times and presents some great material.
I for one am extremely thankful to have a person willing to translate the technology of today allowing all of us to create the medicine of tomorrow.
Thanks Berci, I look forward to your exciting news.
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Thursday, May 10, 2007
Too Far
So I have been reading another blog linked in my brand new DNA Network a Feedburner network set up by Rick at My Biotech Life. I was invited by the group and I am very excited about participating in the discussion. To have such a network encourages debate and solutions. I love the ability to communicate with other persons about the future of health care. That being said, I think this blog may have gone too far. They are talking about Direct to Consumer Testing
- "Not surprisingly, the genomic revolution has a lot of medical professionals who aren't geneticists* concerned about who's doing what, and how."
Not only Non-geneticists, but GIANTS in the field of genetics (Francis Collins, Margretta Seashore, Kurt Hirschhorn, Ed McCabe, Victor McKusick to name a few) have some serious concerns about how things are going. Including Gene Patents, Enzyme Replacement costs, and yes Direct-To-Consumer Testing. This blog goes on to say.....
- "It shouldn't be a territorial issue, but when money is involved, it inevitably raises this issue."
I would venture to say that these physicians and scientists are less concerned about money than they are the stewardship of their respective fields. Shame on this author for insinuating that they think like her. I know these people and money is the least of their worries. Lastly she finishes with
- What's the difference between a direct-to-consumer company that provides medical services and a for-profit physician group that provides medical services?
The answers are many let me start with the obvious ones first.
- Medical practices do not get paid for the tests they order for patients. It is ILLEGAL by Stark II laws. Nor do they get paid for the interpretation of these tests.
- The DTC company does not examine you, they may not even do a family history.
- The physician group has a referral network to send you to when something is diagnosed.
- The ideal group will continue to follow you even after the testing.
I could go on but I think you get the picture. Shame on this blog (which is part of my network) for foolishly trying to think they are even in the same category as a group of physicians who have ethical and legal obligations that DTC companies are not even close to being subjected to. Perhaps the physicians who are under their employ are subjected to these regulations, but do they even carry out medical care?
Must we have this argument? Collaboration is what is needed not the "framing of MDs as money hungry" I would say that perhaps there is some self-projection going on with this DTC company.
What do you think?
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Sunday, May 6, 2007
Gene Genie: a Famous Blog Carnival’s Sixth Issue
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